Sandwiches Don’t Kill People, People Kill People ….. April 8 2013

Did anyone think it would come to this? 100_2094A child fashions what he calls a mountain out of a sandwich and because it resembles a gun the child gets suspended from school? 100_2098Children, using their fingers to form a gun and shouting bang bang, suspended from school. Someone told they cannot wear an army hat to school because it is suggestive of the military?

How do these school officials intend to sanitize children from weapons? Everyday on the news there are reports of shootings. Movies have people using guns as if everyone carries. Have the school boards gone bonkers? Do they intend to remove every single reference to a firearm from the school. Will your child at some point, having committed an infraction, come home with his/her hands removed?

zeroThe zero tolerance policy was not meant to be used to eliminate just the suggestion of a gun, or a gun imitated in play by children. It was meant to eliminate the presence of an actual weapon for any reason on school property. The imagination can be used to convert anything into the shape of a weapon.

There has even been the suspension of a child for carrying a nail clipper. What next? Those pencils can be very sharp. Let’s eliminate pencils, pens, and rulers from the schools. A piece of chalk can be held and pointed as an imaginary gun… it must go.

Keeping a child safe is important, I agree. However, unless you wrap him/her in cellophanecellophane and wheel him/her into school on a hand truck, there is always the potential of an accident of some type occurring. You can’t protect them from everything. You certainly cannot insulate children from the daily news.

This zero tolerance policy meant well, but it has been interpreted by ignorance into a veritable nightmare. As they have interpreted it there are no gray areas. No lenience permitted for the behavior of a child. If it looks like a gun, it’s a gun, whether it’s made of bread and peanut butter or not.

Now there is talk of armed guards in the schools. Armed? With what? pillow fightingThere is zero tolerance being enforced in the schools. Maybe they will be carrying pillows around to gently beat the children into compliance. If you bring a gun into a school there is always a chance of it being misused. If the school board can be ridiculous, so can I.

No student should be suspended for play acting unless it disrupts the normal functioning of the school.

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19 Responses to Sandwiches Don’t Kill People, People Kill People ….. April 8 2013

  1. john zande says:

    As an outsider looking in i’m at times utterly baffled by the extremes taken in the US. It appears there’s just no common sense left there. On some issues the middle road seems as mystical Narnia.

  2. drenn1077 says:

    Despite your “outsider” status I think your assessment as to the loss of commonsense is apt.

  3. john zande says:

    Take something like Free Speech. All civilised nations have free speech, but its exercised with a level of legal common sense that does not protect people like Westborro Church. Hate is hate. It’s unacceptable by rational human beings.

  4. Consider that the US is a place where the boundaries are explored (at great expense in the courts I might add) so that we can all understand what everyone already fucking knows.

  5. drenn1077 says:

    The problem that exists is that it is difficult to determine at what exact point free speech ends and hate speech begins.

  6. drenn1077 says:

    We are justly sensitive to any encroachment upon our free speech, yet, we must endure those like Westboro because of that very fact. It is those like Westboro who create conditions that most often lead to a degree of curtailment in our free speech rights…they ruin it for everybody.

  7. john zande says:

    I don’t know, Drenn. It’s pretty easy if you use a little commonsense 😉

  8. dreenn, that is quite profound. to not endure the pain is to submit to it.To remove the pain is to become the pain. Existence is experience.

  9. drenn1077 says:

    Although if you were a candidate for our Supreme Court I would readily support you, I think you would find the job immensely more difficult than you can imagine in judging where to place the line that cannot be crossed in the pursuit of free speech.

  10. john zande says:

    Oh, I agree that from a legal perspective its gets pretty knotty. But that’s precisely my point: it should not be a legal matter. Something like free speech is far too difficult to define, and that’s where some common sense comes into play. Americans (no offense, you’re an excellent person) seem to rely way too heavily on the courts, and the courts require strict definitions. It’s corrupted your ability rationally handle things which other countries simply don’t have problems with. Everyone seems to be tiptoeing on eggshells, and that’s not a good way to live.

    Where are you based, Drenn? North or south. You don’t have to answer that if you don’t want to. i’ll completely understand.

  11. drenn1077 says:

    I don’t mind if you are willing to reciprocate. I am sitting here in Mansfield Ohio typing this.

    Sent from my Kindle Fire


  12. john zande says:

    Ohio! Middle Earth 🙂 I’m Australian but living in Brazil. Was in Sao Paulo for 6 years (pretty much hated that place) but have since moved to a lovely city, Sao Jose dos Campos, 120km north on the way to Rio. When the Apocalypse of Dec 21st came we got inundated with wealthy Europeans and Americans (including the band Radiohead) who somehow decided this area was the safest place on earth to ride out the cataclysm. No, I’m not joking.

  13. drenn1077 says:

    Brazil! How is life there? Is the money exchange rate favorable? Those wealthy people, did they come down in their big boats or fly in? Do you feel safe there? There on business?

  14. john zande says:

    So many questions! 🙂

    Life is great here. Brazilians are wonderful, albeit a little too relaxed for their own good.

    Currently the exchange rate isn’t so grand, but the government is keeping it artificially low to counter the US Federal Reserve’s efforts to devalue the Dollar. Doesn’t affect me, though.

    The end-of-the-worlders came into Sao Jose in their planes then headed out to Sao Luiz do Paraitinga about 20 minutes away by car. There wasn’t actually that many from overseas, a few dozen, but enough to catch people’s attention.

    Safe as houses.

    Here living now. Followed a girl across the waters nearly 10 years ago.

  15. john zande says:

    You? Born and bred in Ohio?

  16. drenn1077 says:

    I have been here all my life with the exception of a stint overseas with the U. S. Navy.

    Sent from my Kindle Fire


  17. Argus says:

    Don’t apologise for making sense …

    As for the examples you give of stupidity, they bring to mind 3 words that Americans in the main will simply not understand when used in the context of themselves:


  18. drenn1077 says:

    I guess there are exceptions.

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