Do You Really Know Anything, Anything At All? … October 16, 2013

Accept

1. to take or receive (something offered); receive with approval or favor: to accept a present; to accept a proposal.

2. to agree or consent to; accede to: to accept a treaty; to accept an apology.

3. to respond or answer affirmatively to: to accept an invitation.

4. to undertake the responsibility, duties, honors, etc., of: to accept the office of president.

5. to receive or admit formally, as to a college or club.


Know

1. to perceive or understand as fact or truth; to apprehend clearly and with certainty: I know the situation fully.

2. to have established or fixed in the mind or memory: to know a poem by heart; Do you know the way to the park from here?

3. to be cognizant or aware of: I know it.

4. be acquainted with (a thing, place, person, etc.), as by sight, experience, or report: to know the mayor.

5. to understand from experience or attainment (usually followed by how before an infinitive): to know how to make gingerbread.


anguishThe scientist said (from a conversation I had with an individual who claimed to be a scientist while on Facebook) nothing can be known, you can’t know anything. Yet, he states that he knows I cannot know anything. That is a contradiction, how can he know that I cannot know?

From the above definitions it can be seen that there is a great difference between the meaning of accept and know.

I have been told that I cannot know anything, I can only accept the facts or truth. This implies faith. The faithful accept the scriptures as true. They do not know that they are true and have no evidence to back up what they have accepted. Knowledge has facts and evidence to back it up. We know. Or so I thought.

I had made the assertion that to accept something is much different than to know something. I was told that I could only accept, as knowing was impossible. The Pull hair outreligious accept doctrine as true. Some even have the audacity to claim to know it is true. To accept implies faith. You can accept something as true regardless of whether there are any facts or evidence supporting its validity. I am asked to merely accept scientific facts even though there are facts and evidence to back them up? For crying out loud, with the facts and evidence to back up science, how can I not know?


Faith

1. confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another’s ability.

2. belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.

3. belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion: the firm faith of the Pilgrims.

4. belief in anything, as a code of ethics, standards of merit, etc.: to be of the same faith with someone concerning honesty.

5. a system of religious belief: the Christian faith; the Jewish faith.


Faith implies acceptance of whatever you have faith about. There isn’t any proof, no facts, no evidence, yet you believe it is true, you accept that it is true.

To imply that you must accept scientific facts and evidence as true rather than that you know is to elevate faith or belief.

I know that humankind has invented the concept of god and has invented gods toPull hair out attend that concept. After looking into the history of how religions have morphed and become what they are today, it’s a good bet that they are all false. We know they are false, yet, we must only accept that they are possibly false based on the evidence, as we cannot know.

anguishI have been told that I cannot say that I know there are no gods. It does not matter I am told how much information, facts, evidence, that points to non-existence, I cannot say I know. I reject this. I feel that this is a case where people have proceeded to overthink a point of conjecture to the level of ridiculousness. If weanguish 2 cannot assert that our environment is real, that it is more than some illusion, that it is more than some sort of hologram or illusion, then it seems to me we have nothing. Our brain interprets everything we see. It compares every new thing to old things we have seen. This is the illusion, the illusion is in us, our brains. In Pull hair outthe end it is my conclusion that everything is real, it is only our brain’s interpretation that is the illusion. No one can know, at least at this point, that everyone else sees what we see in the same way. This illusion, I think, is what has caused some to overthink, to come to the conclusion that nothing is real, nothing can be known. I also feel that despite Quantum Physics conclusions concerning reality that we must have gotten something wrong where this new field is concerned. As it stands now, using Quantum Physics, it is my feeling that we are getting the wrong answers. One plus one equals two, not three. (Quantum physics, I admit, is not something I understand. In many ways it almost seems to me like an attempt to stir the pot of science and produce a god by subterfuge)relief

We can know, at least we can know what we have so far concluded from the scientific method. We can know what science asserts.

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4 Responses to Do You Really Know Anything, Anything At All? … October 16, 2013

  1. john zande says:

    Excellent. I just wrote a piece on this very thing as well! Faith is irrational. Its counter is evidentialism, which is only approximations of truth… an on-going process of being less wrong.

  2. drenn1077 says:

    How do you know that? lol

  3. Fred Levins says:

    This is a very worthy topic following other worthy topics. My very first comment in a thread in which you also participated, in the early months of 2009 on the “Mansfield News Journal” Web site, involved this subject.

    I would like to read the exchange on Facebook if it is publicly available and still exists. Please direct me to it, if possible.

    I will probably eventually leave a comment after others have moved on.

  4. Fred Levins says:

    @JohnZande:

    “I just wrote a piece on this very thing as well.”

    Are you referring to your WordPress essay, “Faith, wrapped in plastic,” published on April 13, 2013? It includes the word “evidentialism” in its text. If not, where can I find the piece?

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